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This is an excerpt, taken out of the full text of the speech that Richard Dawkins planned to give at the London rally against the Pope, September 18th , 2010. The speech as actually delivered in Whitehall was much shorter, mostly because the rally was so huge (an estimated 15,000) that the speeches started late and had to be curtailed.
Joseph Ratzinger is an enemy of humanity.
He is an enemy of children, whose bodies he has allowed to be raped and whose minds he has encouraged to be infected with guilt. It is embarrassingly clear that the church is less concerned with saving child bodies from rapists than with saving priestly souls from hell: and most concerned with saving the long-term reputation of the church itself.
He is an enemy of gay people, bestowing on them the sort of bigotry that his church used to reserve for Jews.
He is an enemy of women – barring them from the priesthood as though a penis were an essential tool for pastoral duties. What other employer is allowed to discriminate on grounds of sex, when filling a job that manifestly doesn’t require physical strength or some other quality that only males might be thought to have?
He is an enemy of truth, promoting barefaced lies about condoms not protecting against AIDS, especially in Africa.
He is an enemy of the poorest people on the planet, condemning them to inflated families that they cannot feed, and so keeping them in the bondage of perpetual poverty. A poverty that sits ill with the obscene riches of the Vatican.
He is an enemy of science, obstructing vital stem-cell research, on grounds not of morality but of pre-scientific superstition.
Less seriously from my point of view, Ratzinger is even an enemy of the Queen’s own church, arrogantly endorsing a predecessor's dissing of Anglican Orders as “absolutely null and utterly void”, while shamelessly trying to poach Anglican vicars to shore up his own pitifully declining priesthood.
Finally, perhaps of most personal concern to me, he is an enemy of education. Quite apart from the lifelong psychological damage caused by the guilt and fear that have made catholic education infamous throughout the world, he and his church foster the educationally pernicious doctrine that evidence is a less reliable basis for belief than faith, tradition, revelation and authority – his authority.
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Yesterday, Joseph Ratzinger, a liar, child rapist protector and hate monger who ignorantly endangers countless lives, has added a new absurdity to his long, long list of inanities.
It is to be feared he has become completely insane.
As usual, the silly old fool, abusing an invitation, brought his message of hate and intolerance. Some Christians have whined that Britain should receive the pope with civility and as an honored guest. OK, but the first prerequisite for that is that your guest behaves with a modicum of decency and doesn't call his hosts, who have paid for his costly trip, Nazis.
In a speech, and miraculously keeping a straight face, this blatant liar and slanderer raped history. Well, better history than minors, I suppose.
"Even in our own lifetime, we can recall how Britain and her leaders stood against a Nazi tyranny that wished to eradicate God from society and denied our common humanity to many, especially the Jews, who were thought unfit to live."
Ah, yes, the Jews and homosexuals and gypsies and communists. With some of these groups Ratzinger himself has a few problems. Maybe he even thinks that in this instance the Nazis had the right idea and that they are indeed unfit to live. You know, old habits die hard. After all, the Roman Catholic church used to cruelly torture and murder gays and all kinds of dissidents without the least pity.
But, eradicate your god? I don't think so. Both Hitler and Mussolini were staunch defenders of Roman Catholicism of which Ratzinger is the current pope.
"I also recall the regime’s attitude to Christian pastors and religious who spoke the truth in love, opposed the Nazis and paid for that opposition with their lives."
Another bald faced lie. The Nazi regime was supported by the pope, the cardinals, the clergy and most Roman Catholics. Granted there were a few, a very few exceptions, but generally speaking Nazism and Catholicism were on great terms. In earlier posts I gave some evidence for that and it is literally plastered all over the internet, but for good measure I'll give some visual evidence.
Except, Ratzinger, statistics and scientific research contradict you. It is the most secular nations that are the happiest, have the fewest abortions, though they are legal there, teenage pregnancies and incidences of rape. Actually: if you don't want your children to be raped, you'd better move out of Christian neighborhoods, and, most of all, keep them out of the claws of Catholic predatory priests.
It is religion that has always been an insult to human dignity. It is Roman Catholicism that has tortured people, murdered them and generally tried to keep them ignorant and poor, because it is a vile superstition, inimical to life since it focuses upon an imagined afterlife.
Some Catholic person wrote on the BBC News website Have Your Say (comment #1294)
"I was taught as a child that often when people insult and belittle it is more of a reflection on their weaknesses, than a comment on the people they insult. This adage has been proven only too true if the comments on this site from those against religion,are anything to go by. I would urge them to follow another rule from my childhood; if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."
She had better written to Ratzinger. If any insulting and belittling was done, it was by him. I agree, however, that it is a reflection on his weakness.
But on the whole I think Ratzinger is doing great.
He lied and continues lying about the rape of minors in his unholy institution, about AIDS prevention, and now he has lied about Adolf Hitler being an atheist, while actually he was a Roman Catholic. Everybody knows that the Catholic Church collaborated with the fascist regime of Mussolini. It is in fact why Vatican City is a state, marginally less ridiculous than Disneyland, and why he is received today as a head of state instead of being arrested as the criminal that he is.
His preposterous lies have taken on such dimensions that we can hope there will come a day nobody will take him or his crime gang serious anymore. He is singlehandedly destroying a two thousand year old outrage. It's almost like watching a train wreck. Very good.
As Napoleon Bonaparte said: "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
And another. And another.
It is to be feared he has become completely insane.
As usual, the silly old fool, abusing an invitation, brought his message of hate and intolerance. Some Christians have whined that Britain should receive the pope with civility and as an honored guest. OK, but the first prerequisite for that is that your guest behaves with a modicum of decency and doesn't call his hosts, who have paid for his costly trip, Nazis.
In a speech, and miraculously keeping a straight face, this blatant liar and slanderer raped history. Well, better history than minors, I suppose.
"Even in our own lifetime, we can recall how Britain and her leaders stood against a Nazi tyranny that wished to eradicate God from society and denied our common humanity to many, especially the Jews, who were thought unfit to live."
Ah, yes, the Jews and homosexuals and gypsies and communists. With some of these groups Ratzinger himself has a few problems. Maybe he even thinks that in this instance the Nazis had the right idea and that they are indeed unfit to live. You know, old habits die hard. After all, the Roman Catholic church used to cruelly torture and murder gays and all kinds of dissidents without the least pity.
But, eradicate your god? I don't think so. Both Hitler and Mussolini were staunch defenders of Roman Catholicism of which Ratzinger is the current pope.
"I also recall the regime’s attitude to Christian pastors and religious who spoke the truth in love, opposed the Nazis and paid for that opposition with their lives."
Another bald faced lie. The Nazi regime was supported by the pope, the cardinals, the clergy and most Roman Catholics. Granted there were a few, a very few exceptions, but generally speaking Nazism and Catholicism were on great terms. In earlier posts I gave some evidence for that and it is literally plastered all over the internet, but for good measure I'll give some visual evidence.
Jozef Ratzinger, the later Benedict XVI, standing up
against Nazi tyranny in his Nazi Luftwaffe uniform
against Nazi tyranny in his Nazi Luftwaffe uniform
Priests expressing their disgust for the Nazi regime by bringing the Nazi salute
Atheist Adolf Hitler witnessing
atheist Hermann Goering's wedding as best man in Berlin cathedral
Roman Catholic cardinal endangering his life
heroically fighting Adolf Hitler in person
atheist Hermann Goering's wedding as best man in Berlin cathedral
Roman Catholic cardinal endangering his life
heroically fighting Adolf Hitler in person
Adolf Hitler trembling while papal nuncio cardinal Orsenigo
speaks the truth in love to him at the peril of his life
speaks the truth in love to him at the peril of his life
Shield of the atheist Nazi Luftwaffe
Atheist belt buckle the atheist Nazi regime forced every soldier to wear
"As we reflect on the sobering lessons of the atheist extremism of the twentieth century, let us never forget how the exclusion of God, religion and virtue from public life leads ultimately to a truncated vision of man and of society and thus to a “reductive vision of the person and his destiny”.
Except, Ratzinger, statistics and scientific research contradict you. It is the most secular nations that are the happiest, have the fewest abortions, though they are legal there, teenage pregnancies and incidences of rape. Actually: if you don't want your children to be raped, you'd better move out of Christian neighborhoods, and, most of all, keep them out of the claws of Catholic predatory priests.
It is religion that has always been an insult to human dignity. It is Roman Catholicism that has tortured people, murdered them and generally tried to keep them ignorant and poor, because it is a vile superstition, inimical to life since it focuses upon an imagined afterlife.
Some Catholic person wrote on the BBC News website Have Your Say (comment #1294)
"I was taught as a child that often when people insult and belittle it is more of a reflection on their weaknesses, than a comment on the people they insult. This adage has been proven only too true if the comments on this site from those against religion,are anything to go by. I would urge them to follow another rule from my childhood; if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all."
She had better written to Ratzinger. If any insulting and belittling was done, it was by him. I agree, however, that it is a reflection on his weakness.
But on the whole I think Ratzinger is doing great.
He lied and continues lying about the rape of minors in his unholy institution, about AIDS prevention, and now he has lied about Adolf Hitler being an atheist, while actually he was a Roman Catholic. Everybody knows that the Catholic Church collaborated with the fascist regime of Mussolini. It is in fact why Vatican City is a state, marginally less ridiculous than Disneyland, and why he is received today as a head of state instead of being arrested as the criminal that he is.
His preposterous lies have taken on such dimensions that we can hope there will come a day nobody will take him or his crime gang serious anymore. He is singlehandedly destroying a two thousand year old outrage. It's almost like watching a train wreck. Very good.
As Napoleon Bonaparte said: "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."
And another. And another.
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The criminal Joseph Ratzinger, also known as Benedict XVI, has landed in Scotland to preach his message of hate and intolerance.
Ratzinger is the foolish old liar who claims condoms not only don't protect against AIDS but actually cause AIDS. All scientist disagree with him. All statistics contradict this. He himself has no scientific degree. It is an obvious, malignant, harmful and murderous lie. Yet, this disgusting deceiver continues endangering people's lives in the name of some superstition.
Ratzinger is also the criminal who knew child abuse was rampant in his organization, had the power to do something about it, but did exactly nothing. Instead he actively helped — not the victims, that would just be silly — to cover up the rape of children by the clergy of his unholy institution.
Everyone has the right to believe what nonsense he pleases and to worship, in his or her own time, whatever deity they prefer, but superstitions, even if you call them religion and you truly, honestly believe in them, don't have the right to undermine others or discriminate against them. They certainly don't have the right to endanger lives in the name of some Bronze Age set of rules. The Catholic Church has raped, tortured and murdered enough already throughout history.
Ratzinger is mad enough to think he has some moral values to "teach" us. The thought alone is revolting and ridiculous in the extreme. You could as well ask advice about peaceful negotiating from Attila the Hun.
He landed in Edinburgh, the capital of Scotland. The country, part of the United Kingdom has about 5.2 million inhabitants, of which at least 2 million "are good without god". That is nearly 40%, but it is only an estimate and the true figure is believed to be much higher. In 2009, Asma Jahangir, The UN Special Rapporteur on Faith and Belief, estimated that the actual figure is around 66%.
The spokeswoman of the Humanist Society Scotland, Juliet Wilson said, "Although the Pope is welcome to visit Scotland as an individual, the Humanist Society of Scotland opposes the state visit because he actively opposes democracy and human rights. We know from last week's Theos poll that 80% of Scots agree with us, and we know that fewer than 80,000 people will travel to see the Pope in Glasgow."
Juliet Wilson: "As we say, if you’re not religious, for god’s sake say so!"
Ratzinger is the foolish old liar who claims condoms not only don't protect against AIDS but actually cause AIDS. All scientist disagree with him. All statistics contradict this. He himself has no scientific degree. It is an obvious, malignant, harmful and murderous lie. Yet, this disgusting deceiver continues endangering people's lives in the name of some superstition.
Ratzinger is also the criminal who knew child abuse was rampant in his organization, had the power to do something about it, but did exactly nothing. Instead he actively helped — not the victims, that would just be silly — to cover up the rape of children by the clergy of his unholy institution.
Everyone has the right to believe what nonsense he pleases and to worship, in his or her own time, whatever deity they prefer, but superstitions, even if you call them religion and you truly, honestly believe in them, don't have the right to undermine others or discriminate against them. They certainly don't have the right to endanger lives in the name of some Bronze Age set of rules. The Catholic Church has raped, tortured and murdered enough already throughout history.
Ratzinger is mad enough to think he has some moral values to "teach" us. The thought alone is revolting and ridiculous in the extreme. You could as well ask advice about peaceful negotiating from Attila the Hun.
He landed in Edinburgh, the capital of Scotland. The country, part of the United Kingdom has about 5.2 million inhabitants, of which at least 2 million "are good without god". That is nearly 40%, but it is only an estimate and the true figure is believed to be much higher. In 2009, Asma Jahangir, The UN Special Rapporteur on Faith and Belief, estimated that the actual figure is around 66%.
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The spokeswoman of the Humanist Society Scotland, Juliet Wilson said, "Although the Pope is welcome to visit Scotland as an individual, the Humanist Society of Scotland opposes the state visit because he actively opposes democracy and human rights. We know from last week's Theos poll that 80% of Scots agree with us, and we know that fewer than 80,000 people will travel to see the Pope in Glasgow."
Juliet Wilson: "As we say, if you’re not religious, for god’s sake say so!"
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At least thirteen victims have taken their own life. The actual figure is unknown: it could very easily run into the hundreds. A seventy year old man told a reporter that he still had nightmares, twice a week, about what was done to him some sixty years ago by a priest.
At first sight the majority of the Belgians seem to be Catholic. Like always, Christians are lying. Somewhat less than half come into a church about three times in their lifespan: when they are born to get baptized, to get married and to be buried. Those numbers are dwindling every year.
In the late 1950's regular attendance of Sunday mass was over 60%. In 2008 this figure was barely 5%, and the church admits it is losing about 0.5% every year. That might be a lot more in 2010.
The Catholic Democratic Party had an absolute majority in the 1950's. It barely got 16,15% of the votes in the elections of 2010. That this figure isn't even lower is probably partly because the party has changed the "Catholic"-part of it's name into "Christian" and even so almost never emphasizes it.
The scandal of the child abuse has rippled through the nation. Not only the facts are shocking, but the subsequent efforts of the church to cover up the filth instead of doing something about it are equally despicable.
L'Anglophone writes (on September 2, 2010):
"According to secretly-recorded tapes made public, a former leader of Belgium's Catholic church advised a victim of sexual abuse to remain silent until after the retirement of the perpetrator, who was both the victim's uncle and the Bishop of Bruges.
The first of the two tapes, both of which were made public last weekend in the Flemish dailies De Standaard and Het Nieuwsblad, is of a conversation on April 8th, 2010 between three people: the victim, whose name has not been made public; Robert Joseph Vangheluwe, 73, (right) the former bishop of Bruges; and Cardinal Godfried Danneels, 77, (left) the former archbishop of Mechelen-Brussels. Church authorities have verified the tapes' authenticity. On the first tape, the victim is encouraged to either accept a private apology and remain silent, or to wait until Vangheluwe's retirement in 2011. 'The bishop will resign next year, so actually it would be better for you to wait. I don’t think you’d do yourself or him a favor by shouting this from the rooftops,' said the cardinal, adding later in the conversation, 'I don't know whether it would be to your advantage to make a lot of noise about it. Neither for you, nor for him.'
When the cardinal warned the victim against blackmailing the church and dragging Vangheluwe's name 'through the mud,' the victim replied, 'He has dragged my whole life through the mud, from age 5 until 18. Why do you feel sorry for him and not for me?'"
What did the poor man expect? Compassion from Catholics?
Last week, under the continuing pressure of the indignant public opinion, the cardinal confessed he had made an error of judgment. He made an error of judgment? How about he committed a crime? This systematic, deliberate choice of giving precedence to the "good" name of the church over the suffering of the victims is not only the pinnacle of cruelty, it has prevented any action being taken to keep perpetrators from continuing to sexually molest children. His decision has undoubtedly cost lives.
Real people have suffered horribly to protect a superstition.
Cardinal Danneels, once thought to be a possible pope, has shown us the true face of his merciless and callous institution. It is not as if he didn't know about these monstrous crimes. He just ignored them in a way that can be called nothing less than inhumanly cruel and criminal.
Father Rik Devillé, an advocate for victims of abuse by priests, said he tried to warn cardinal Danneels about the bishop’s abuse of his nephew 14 years ago, but was berated by the cardinal for doing so. This was even reported in The New York Times. Father Devillé was one of the founders of the organization Human Rights in the Church, which assisted more than 300 young victims of priest pedophilia between 1992 and 1998.
Vangheluwe did not wait to retire until 2011. About two weeks after the meeting, after a friend of the victim threatened to make the case pubic, the bishop resigned on April 23th, and admitted he had sexually abused "a boy in my entourage" two decades earlier. Despite this he will not face prosecution because the statute of limitations on his crimes has run out. The tactics of Catholic Church to intimidate the victims into silence have proven once more effective.
The Vatican accepted Vangheluwe's resignation in June, but said nothing publicly before Belgian police raided church properties on June 24th. Then it raged furiously. Cardinal Bertone angrily told reporters that not even communist states dared to treat church authorities and church property in this way. He summoned the Belgian ambassador to the Vatican and handed him a formal protest note.
It is doubtful this will have made much of an impression on Belgian authorities. In 2009, the Belgian parliament made a formal diplomatic protest to the Vatican over the Pope's remarks about the use of condoms to combat Aids. The Vatican rejected the Belgian protest as an "attempt to silence the Pope's moral teaching".
Moral teachings?
Are these criminals telling us they have anything to teach us about morality? Let's see.
- Sexually abuse children
- Threaten them to remain silent
- React furiously when your vile crimes are found out
- Hypocritically try to make yourself look as the victim
- Tell people condoms are not safe, jeopardizing the lives of millions (since you know better than all scientists in the world)
- Call yourself "holy"
The truth is the average sewer rat has a higher moral standard than the Catholic Church. The truth is no other organization could have committed such despicable, vile crimes without being shut down.
The Catholic Church is a criminal organization and should be treated as such. Their officials should be treated like Mafia dons. They belong behind bars pending long and thorough investigations into their crimes.
Johnny Cash comes to mind when he sung about San Quentin Prison:
May you rot and burn in hell.
May your walls fall and may I live to tell.
May all the world forget you ever stood.
And may all the world regret you did no good.
May your walls fall and may I live to tell.
May all the world forget you ever stood.
And may all the world regret you did no good.
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This would be funny, were it not that it is what these sick, perverted criminals actually seem to think.
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Adolf Hitler admired Catholicism. The ostentatious richness of its rituals, its longevity, its spreading of hatred for anybody who doesn't conform, its dogmatism, its claims to universal domination and, last but not least, its strict hierarchical management: it all appealed to the Führer.
"For how shall we fill people with blind faith in the correctness of a doctrine, if we ourselves spread uncertainty and doubt by constant changes in its outward structure? (...) Here, too, we can learn by the example of the Catholic Church. Though its doctrinal edifice, and in part quite superfluously, comes into collision with exact science and research, it is none the less unwilling to sacrifice so much as one little syllable of its dogmas. (...) it is only such dogmas which lend to the whole body the character of a faith."
~ Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Volume 2, Chapter 5
Is it any wonder Catholics loved Nazism? Of course not, as systems to deceive and subjugate people they used practically the same methods.
Nazi propaganda poster: Adolf Hitler is pictured as a messiah.
Notice the dove and the beam of light out of heaven.
Notice the dove and the beam of light out of heaven.
"For how shall we fill people with blind faith in the correctness of a doctrine, if we ourselves spread uncertainty and doubt by constant changes in its outward structure? (...) Here, too, we can learn by the example of the Catholic Church. Though its doctrinal edifice, and in part quite superfluously, comes into collision with exact science and research, it is none the less unwilling to sacrifice so much as one little syllable of its dogmas. (...) it is only such dogmas which lend to the whole body the character of a faith."
~ Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Volume 2, Chapter 5
Is it any wonder Catholics loved Nazism? Of course not, as systems to deceive and subjugate people they used practically the same methods.
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The catholic church: raping the minds and bodies of kids and still having the arrogance to pretend to teach you what is right or wrong.
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The mind boggles: Joseph Ratzinger, a known criminal and vicious liar, boss of an organization that in its sad, long history has committed literally every atrocity known to mankind accuses Atheism of the very appalling cruelties his own unholy gang has committed over and over again.
The appalling immorality of christians and in particular the shameless lies of catholics never cease to amaze.
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Christians are still spreading the atrocious, vicious lie that Adolf Hitler was an Atheist. As a result, they continue lying, he killed Jews and started a world war because he was an Atheist.
As is often the case when christians open their mouth, all kinds of things come out except the truth. Are they really that uninformed or stupid, I wonder, or are they just willful liars?
The truth is that Hitler was very popular in conservative christian circles in Germany because he opposed homosexuality, pornography and was a firm adherent of all "values" christians want others to follow, but so seldom practice themselves.
No wonder that when the Vatican signed a concordat with that other fascist dictator, Benito Mussolini, Adolf Hitler, a staunch supporter of christianity himself, applauded this.
The Vatican, Hitler, Mussolini, christianity, nazism, fascism: they seemed to be made for each other.
Were he to live today in the US there is no doubt Adolf Hitler would be a devout christian Republican.
Christians should stop their ridiculous, disgusting, slanderous lies.
The following is an excerpt of a jubilant article Hitler wrote to celebrate this understanding between the Vatican, Nazism and Fascism. Of course, as a christian, Adolf Hitler not only condemns liberal Jews, but also Atheistic Marxism.
"The fact that the Curia is now making its peace with Fascism shows that the Vatican trusts the new political realities far more than did the former liberal democracy with which it could not come to terms. ...The fact that the Catholic Church has come to an agreement with Fascist Italy ...proves beyond doubt that the Fascist world of ideas is closer to Christianity than those of Jewish liberalism or even atheistic Marxism..."
~ Adolf Hitler
in an article in the Völkischer Beobachter, the Nazi Party newspaper, February 29, 1929, on the new Lateran Concordat between Mussolini's fascist government and the Vatican.
As is often the case when christians open their mouth, all kinds of things come out except the truth. Are they really that uninformed or stupid, I wonder, or are they just willful liars?
The truth is that Hitler was very popular in conservative christian circles in Germany because he opposed homosexuality, pornography and was a firm adherent of all "values" christians want others to follow, but so seldom practice themselves.
No wonder that when the Vatican signed a concordat with that other fascist dictator, Benito Mussolini, Adolf Hitler, a staunch supporter of christianity himself, applauded this.
The Vatican, Hitler, Mussolini, christianity, nazism, fascism: they seemed to be made for each other.
Were he to live today in the US there is no doubt Adolf Hitler would be a devout christian Republican.
Christians should stop their ridiculous, disgusting, slanderous lies.
The following is an excerpt of a jubilant article Hitler wrote to celebrate this understanding between the Vatican, Nazism and Fascism. Of course, as a christian, Adolf Hitler not only condemns liberal Jews, but also Atheistic Marxism.
"The fact that the Curia is now making its peace with Fascism shows that the Vatican trusts the new political realities far more than did the former liberal democracy with which it could not come to terms. ...The fact that the Catholic Church has come to an agreement with Fascist Italy ...proves beyond doubt that the Fascist world of ideas is closer to Christianity than those of Jewish liberalism or even atheistic Marxism..."
~ Adolf Hitler
in an article in the Völkischer Beobachter, the Nazi Party newspaper, February 29, 1929, on the new Lateran Concordat between Mussolini's fascist government and the Vatican.
Lateran Concordat 1929
commemorative postcard, from left to right: Victor Emmanuel III, Pius XI, Benito Mussolini
commemorative postcard, from left to right: Victor Emmanuel III, Pius XI, Benito Mussolini
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You have to admire them. Nobody, but nobody can insult you in such a sanctimonious, bitter way as catholics. Unhindered by knowledge or manners they heap one crude affront after another rude slight upon you, if you don't happen to belong to their rapist-condoning club.
In The Catholic Herald, one Francis Phillips writes her little pious butt off to demonstrate that Atheists can't be joyous.
Well, I knew we were all vicious, amoral murderers but now it appears it is impossible for us to experience joy. We're just not equipped for it. Only, I repeat only, catholics (well, maybe other christians as well) can experience true joy. Mind you, I grant we sorely lack how a catholic priest can be joyous at times.
A joyous Atheist is no less than The Ultimate Oxymoron according to Francis. Not your garden variety oxymoron. No, no. The Ultimate Oxymoron. It doesn't get more oxy, according to what must be the ultimate catholic moron.
It is probably something like The Ultimate Pleonasm: a bigoted catholic.
"You can be either ‘joyous’ or an ‘atheist’; you cannot be both. Discuss."
Discuss? Gladly, dear Madam.
So, I tried my hand at some sanctimoniousness of my own. It was hard work, but I tried to be as salving, yet denigrating, as understanding, yet condescending as a catholic.
This is what I came up with.
Dear Madam,
Why is it that so many Christians, and especially so many Catholics, are so harsh, judgmental and, well, frankly, unhappy?
Haven't you read this piece over before submitting it? Haven't you noticed its acerbic, condescending tone? Haven't you noticed the callous way in which you insult a very, very large group of people?
I wonder what your definition of the word joyful is. Is this piece joyful? Joyful hate? Joyful condescension? Are you joyfully feeling superior?
Don't you think that if your religion were really joyful, people would flock to you? Wouldn't they come running towards you, asking, nay, begging "Please, tell me, what is the source of your joyfulness? Please, tell me your secret. Instruct me how I can become as joyful as you are."
Do they, dear Madam? Do they really?
Over the last years, more than 34 million people have turned their backs to organized religion in the US alone. How can they give up that ethereal joy of which you non-atheists are the sole possessors?
By their fruits you shall know them. Or, more prosaically and less religiously put, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. You only have to look at your emptying churches. You only have to listen to the howls of derision and ridicule reverberating throughout the world when the pope has issued yet another statement that defies, literally, belief in all the meanings of the word. You only have to feel the almost palpable distastefulness that surrounds your priesthood.
Your lack of love, Madam, is only surpassed by your arrogant hatefulness.
I understand, Madam, that you were preaching to the choir. Like any group of enablers they will undoubtedly applaud you. Cherish them, because their numbers are dwindling by the day. Alas for you, the Dark Ages are over and when you insult people, even when it is in the name of your god, even when you are a Catholic, you are going to get some answers. Not all of which might please you.
You have been sowing bitter seeds.
What kind of harvest do you think you will reap?
PS: You also fail at linguistics. Look it up in the Oxford English Dictionary. At least since the early seventeenth century the word has been used with a secular meaning.
Why am I not surprised a Catholic is lagging a few centuries behind?
A lot of other atheists have reacted as well. So now you have a web page that makes for partly infuriating, partly highly amusing reading: enjoy it here
Thanks to The Spiritual Atheist who drew my attention to this site.
In The Catholic Herald, one Francis Phillips writes her little pious butt off to demonstrate that Atheists can't be joyous.
Well, I knew we were all vicious, amoral murderers but now it appears it is impossible for us to experience joy. We're just not equipped for it. Only, I repeat only, catholics (well, maybe other christians as well) can experience true joy. Mind you, I grant we sorely lack how a catholic priest can be joyous at times.
A joyous Atheist is no less than The Ultimate Oxymoron according to Francis. Not your garden variety oxymoron. No, no. The Ultimate Oxymoron. It doesn't get more oxy, according to what must be the ultimate catholic moron.
It is probably something like The Ultimate Pleonasm: a bigoted catholic.
"You can be either ‘joyous’ or an ‘atheist’; you cannot be both. Discuss."
Discuss? Gladly, dear Madam.
So, I tried my hand at some sanctimoniousness of my own. It was hard work, but I tried to be as salving, yet denigrating, as understanding, yet condescending as a catholic.
This is what I came up with.
Dear Madam,
Why is it that so many Christians, and especially so many Catholics, are so harsh, judgmental and, well, frankly, unhappy?
Haven't you read this piece over before submitting it? Haven't you noticed its acerbic, condescending tone? Haven't you noticed the callous way in which you insult a very, very large group of people?
I wonder what your definition of the word joyful is. Is this piece joyful? Joyful hate? Joyful condescension? Are you joyfully feeling superior?
Don't you think that if your religion were really joyful, people would flock to you? Wouldn't they come running towards you, asking, nay, begging "Please, tell me, what is the source of your joyfulness? Please, tell me your secret. Instruct me how I can become as joyful as you are."
Do they, dear Madam? Do they really?
Over the last years, more than 34 million people have turned their backs to organized religion in the US alone. How can they give up that ethereal joy of which you non-atheists are the sole possessors?
By their fruits you shall know them. Or, more prosaically and less religiously put, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. You only have to look at your emptying churches. You only have to listen to the howls of derision and ridicule reverberating throughout the world when the pope has issued yet another statement that defies, literally, belief in all the meanings of the word. You only have to feel the almost palpable distastefulness that surrounds your priesthood.
Your lack of love, Madam, is only surpassed by your arrogant hatefulness.
I understand, Madam, that you were preaching to the choir. Like any group of enablers they will undoubtedly applaud you. Cherish them, because their numbers are dwindling by the day. Alas for you, the Dark Ages are over and when you insult people, even when it is in the name of your god, even when you are a Catholic, you are going to get some answers. Not all of which might please you.
You have been sowing bitter seeds.
What kind of harvest do you think you will reap?
PS: You also fail at linguistics. Look it up in the Oxford English Dictionary. At least since the early seventeenth century the word has been used with a secular meaning.
Why am I not surprised a Catholic is lagging a few centuries behind?
A lot of other atheists have reacted as well. So now you have a web page that makes for partly infuriating, partly highly amusing reading: enjoy it here
Thanks to The Spiritual Atheist who drew my attention to this site.
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All is well with the world.
Yep, everything is just going fine.
On Twitter some hysterical person was exhorting the devout masses to help the christian victims of rape by muslims in Iran, while the only thing those poor, innocent christians had been doing was trying to convert people to their own brand of barbarity, and away from that other skid mark upon humanity. A bit like selling Richard Dawkins' books in Saint Peter's basilica in Rome. Which would be totally OK by christians. They are known for their tolerance.
As if Iran wasn't in trouble enough with one retarded religion. As if christians hadn't anything better to do, like cleaning their own filthy house of rapists. To mention only the bleeding obvious.
Meanwhile the catholics in Boston are putting much effort in their marketing campaign called "Catholics Come Home". Yes, come home you lost sheep. We're beginning to feel the absence of your money.
One Joseph Kurtz, Great Padishah-Mogul of the Sacred Beehive of Poughkeepsie (that could also be Archbishop of the Holy Roman Catholic Church — I always confuse those two) insists on letting us know what his feeble mind thinks about marriage.
“Marriage exists prior to the state and is not open to redefinition by the state. The role of the state, instead, is to respect and reinforce marriage.”
Yeah. Kurtz obviously operates under the somewhat false impression he has any authority left. How dare that nincompoop even try to tell other people what to do and not. And, by the way, the State is not your business, Kurtz, you cheeky monkey. You have nothing to do with it. You have nothing relevant to say about it. You're just an insignificant old man who wears funny dresses and silly hats. None of those enhance your credibility. And, please, take your penis out of the anus of my underage son while you're talking gibberish to me.
Get it trough your calcified skull that chess rules only apply to the game of chess. Your ramblings only apply to people who want to belong to your club. Us sane people don't want to be bothered by your blabberings based on a collection of Bronze Age horror stories.
In Rome priests now pay adult call boys to have hot man-sex or go to gay clubs to have consensual intercourse. This is progress in comparison to raping altar boys.
Joseph "The Pitbull" Ratzinger, however, doesn't seem to think so. Still reeling from the howls of hysterical laughter and the outcries of indignation his latests inanity (declaring the mere attempt to ordain women into the priesthood equal to raping children) has provoked, he ordered gay priests to leave the priesthood. Not a wise move, a gay activist mused. The church stands to lose 98 % of its ground personnel.
It's things like these that make Ratzinger the best pope ever. He's destroying an almost two thousand year old institution singlehandedly. He is to be applauded and encouraged. Like Napoleon said "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." And another one. And another one.
You would think Ratzinger would do something for all those victims his vile, criminal organization has made. No, there are more important things to tend to than caring for some whining rape victims. What is the church? A compassionate institute preaching love? Perish the thought. Latest we heard he is writing the final part of a fiction work, "The life of Jesus, part III", based on an ancient fairy tale. (spoiler: the main character dies)
Unless he makes Jesus sparkle like the vampires of "Twilight" he could have saved himself the trouble.
All is well with the world.
Yep, everything is just going fine.
On Twitter some hysterical person was exhorting the devout masses to help the christian victims of rape by muslims in Iran, while the only thing those poor, innocent christians had been doing was trying to convert people to their own brand of barbarity, and away from that other skid mark upon humanity. A bit like selling Richard Dawkins' books in Saint Peter's basilica in Rome. Which would be totally OK by christians. They are known for their tolerance.
As if Iran wasn't in trouble enough with one retarded religion. As if christians hadn't anything better to do, like cleaning their own filthy house of rapists. To mention only the bleeding obvious.
Meanwhile the catholics in Boston are putting much effort in their marketing campaign called "Catholics Come Home". Yes, come home you lost sheep. We're beginning to feel the absence of your money.
One Joseph Kurtz, Great Padishah-Mogul of the Sacred Beehive of Poughkeepsie (that could also be Archbishop of the Holy Roman Catholic Church — I always confuse those two) insists on letting us know what his feeble mind thinks about marriage.
“Marriage exists prior to the state and is not open to redefinition by the state. The role of the state, instead, is to respect and reinforce marriage.”
Yeah. Kurtz obviously operates under the somewhat false impression he has any authority left. How dare that nincompoop even try to tell other people what to do and not. And, by the way, the State is not your business, Kurtz, you cheeky monkey. You have nothing to do with it. You have nothing relevant to say about it. You're just an insignificant old man who wears funny dresses and silly hats. None of those enhance your credibility. And, please, take your penis out of the anus of my underage son while you're talking gibberish to me.
Get it trough your calcified skull that chess rules only apply to the game of chess. Your ramblings only apply to people who want to belong to your club. Us sane people don't want to be bothered by your blabberings based on a collection of Bronze Age horror stories.
In Rome priests now pay adult call boys to have hot man-sex or go to gay clubs to have consensual intercourse. This is progress in comparison to raping altar boys.
Joseph "The Pitbull" Ratzinger, however, doesn't seem to think so. Still reeling from the howls of hysterical laughter and the outcries of indignation his latests inanity (declaring the mere attempt to ordain women into the priesthood equal to raping children) has provoked, he ordered gay priests to leave the priesthood. Not a wise move, a gay activist mused. The church stands to lose 98 % of its ground personnel.
It's things like these that make Ratzinger the best pope ever. He's destroying an almost two thousand year old institution singlehandedly. He is to be applauded and encouraged. Like Napoleon said "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." And another one. And another one.
You would think Ratzinger would do something for all those victims his vile, criminal organization has made. No, there are more important things to tend to than caring for some whining rape victims. What is the church? A compassionate institute preaching love? Perish the thought. Latest we heard he is writing the final part of a fiction work, "The life of Jesus, part III", based on an ancient fairy tale. (spoiler: the main character dies)
Unless he makes Jesus sparkle like the vampires of "Twilight" he could have saved himself the trouble.
All is well with the world.
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